Use both hands! :)
Use both hands! :)
Hi!
I'm starting out by saying: I never played Minecraft. Since Perttu (celeron55) is hinting that he's looking for a different direction, I took my experience with gaming the older RPG's (ultima underworld series, daggerfall, etc) and tried to apply it.
One thing that annoyed me from the start with minetest was switching back and forth between building rocks and using a pickeaxe. I present to you: dual wielding.
Controls:
Left mouse button: use item in left hand
Right mouse button: use item in right hand.
Left hand: selectable through keys 1-4
Right hand: selectable through keys 5-8 and mouse wheel.
Drop item in left hand: Z
Drop item in right hand: X
To use bare hands, use an empty slot. Interactive items still work by right clicking.
Here's a video showcasing a prototype:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8nn24ZuOUI
This opens up efficient combos for left/right mouse buttons. For instance, left hand pick axe, right hand block or maybe a shield/sword combo in the future.
It is just a client-side UI and control change, it does not affect game rules. Using a simple config setting you can disable it to get default (minecraft) behavior.
I've made all the changes to my repos clone, I have nowhere to put a tarball or a patch, please let me know (you in particular, Perttu) if you want the sources to test, etc. Maybe we can add a sandbox repos to the bitbucket project?
I'm also eager to help fix bugs and add some other features as suggested in this forum by other users.
Cheers!
I'm starting out by saying: I never played Minecraft. Since Perttu (celeron55) is hinting that he's looking for a different direction, I took my experience with gaming the older RPG's (ultima underworld series, daggerfall, etc) and tried to apply it.
One thing that annoyed me from the start with minetest was switching back and forth between building rocks and using a pickeaxe. I present to you: dual wielding.
Controls:
Left mouse button: use item in left hand
Right mouse button: use item in right hand.
Left hand: selectable through keys 1-4
Right hand: selectable through keys 5-8 and mouse wheel.
Drop item in left hand: Z
Drop item in right hand: X
To use bare hands, use an empty slot. Interactive items still work by right clicking.
Here's a video showcasing a prototype:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8nn24ZuOUI
This opens up efficient combos for left/right mouse buttons. For instance, left hand pick axe, right hand block or maybe a shield/sword combo in the future.
It is just a client-side UI and control change, it does not affect game rules. Using a simple config setting you can disable it to get default (minecraft) behavior.
I've made all the changes to my repos clone, I have nowhere to put a tarball or a patch, please let me know (you in particular, Perttu) if you want the sources to test, etc. Maybe we can add a sandbox repos to the bitbucket project?
I'm also eager to help fix bugs and add some other features as suggested in this forum by other users.
Cheers!
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mstoykov: you want the e key? Consistent with what? I think you can bind the keys you want in the config, but I'll change the defaults if you don't like them.
I'm also thinking of expanding the hot bar to include ten items instead of just 8. Is that a good idea?
My repos is at http://bitbucket.org/spongie/minetest-sponge
(see http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/minetest/download.php for build instructions)
I've found only one bug, I'll try to fix it today. It might also be in Perttu's repos so I might need to send patch upstream also.
I'm also thinking of expanding the hot bar to include ten items instead of just 8. Is that a good idea?
My repos is at http://bitbucket.org/spongie/minetest-sponge
(see http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/minetest/download.php for build instructions)
I've found only one bug, I'll try to fix it today. It might also be in Perttu's repos so I might need to send patch upstream also.
Yes, there's always the option of having an a range in the middle of the hotbar where you need to select both hands to use the item, as an example. It's rather easy to do.
The items don't support it yet and it would require an additional flag, breaking compatibility with old serialization of objects.
The items don't support it yet and it would require an additional flag, breaking compatibility with old serialization of objects.
Re: Use both hands! :)
"Video not available :-/"spongie wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8nn24ZuOUI
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Sounds amazing though! Your repository also gives a 404.
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Re: Use both hands! :)
I like the idea :)
+1
+1
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Re: Use both hands! :)
Yay! now I can mine for ores while picking my nose...
Re: Use both hands! :)
MC is getting this in 1.9. You just press F to swap items between both hands. There's also a new slot next to the hotbar that shows the item in the non-dominant hand. Works pretty well with e.g. a torch or a shield in the other hand.
MT modders, start your photocopiers! :-)
MT modders, start your photocopiers! :-)
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Re: Use both hands! :)
Reviving an old thread here? It's 4 years old.
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Re: Use both hands! :)
The repo has a cool 404 message though :)kaadmy wrote:Reviving an old thread here? It's 4 years old.
Re: Use both hands! :)
Hey!..
That's not a dead Link!
Here, have one:

That's not a dead Link!
Here, have one:

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Re: Use both hands! :)
I must say, that's the funniest thing I've seen today!
Lol, 4aiman.
Lol, 4aiman.
Re: Use both hands! :)
I can tell by your avatar!benrob0329 wrote:I must say, that's the funniest thing I've seen today!
Lol, 4aiman.
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Re: Use both hands! :)
Does anyone know where I can continue working on the dual wielding?
I'd rather not start from scratch.
I found this repo from the same user but it doesn't seem to be relevant.
https://bitbucket.org/spongie/minetest- ... /wiki/Home
I'd rather not start from scratch.
I found this repo from the same user but it doesn't seem to be relevant.
https://bitbucket.org/spongie/minetest- ... /wiki/Home
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Re: Use both hands! :)
I know everyone hates bringing back old discussions, but viewtopic.php?p=213983#p213983
Re: Use both hands! :)
I was thinking about that when i see this, the little fact is that BlockLife is based in the 0.4.7 version of Minetest, so is very outdated, but i will see what happen with that little project!benrob0329 wrote:I know everyone hates bringing back old discussions, but viewtopic.php?p=213983#p213983
Have a nice day! :D