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[sfan5]

Well, I put together another dumpster build with a 3.0 Ghz single core (all other stats are the same) and it did the same thing. So I stripped the computer down (I'm on another one right now), and noticed that a few pins are missing from the VGA cable... [...]

I've seen quite some VGA cables work while some pins being missing, this is normal with older cables and probably done to save producing costs.

[Jordach]

Well, I put together another dumpster build with a 3.0 Ghz single core (all other stats are the same) and it did the same thing. So I stripped the computer down (I'm on another one right now), and noticed that a few pins are missing from the VGA cable... [...]

I've seen quite some VGA cables work while some pins being missing, this is normal with older cables and probably done to save producing costs.

I've had many a VGA lead with broken stuff.

I once had a monitor where the pin was bent and produced constant red until I un-bent it with pliers.

[Tedypig]

Yeah, but, I cut the cable right at the connector to splice in another one, so I can't just re-solder it together. the original one was built-in, the other was a normal cable I had laying around. I should have left a bit there to put it back together...

[Tedypig]

OK, same thing. This sucks. I got a "new" CRT monitor from a friend. With the extra 0.3 Ghz (2.70 - 3.00) Minetest downloaded and installed 100 times faster... shocking really... and I'm getting 30+ FPS... BUT! Black sky, no inventory textures, etc... It does it on servers also. No clue what could be happining..


Sfan5: Here's what you asked for...

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cj@cj-T3882:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.3 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 02)

What's this going to prove? That I have a old crappy computer? Lol!

[aldobr]

what puppy are you using ?

[Tedypig]

aldobr, none. I'm using Lubuntu.

[LemonLake]

--ignore this post, I solved it

[Topywo]

Did you search on internet with these keywords:

intel corporation 82865g integrated graphics controller driver

Maybe you can find help in the results.

[sfan5]

I'm getting 30+ FPS... BUT! Black sky, no inventory textures, etc... It does it on servers also.

According to some websites your graphics card only supports OpenGL 1.3, this could be too low for Minetest to work completly. You could try running sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk && jockey-gtk, this will open a program which searches for drivers..

[Tedypig]

It said it's up to date. I have an old graphics card somewhere, but it may be slower. If I find it, I will try it. I'm not getting my hopes up though.

EDIT: It didn't work.

[Tedypig]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

[Krock]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

Welcome to the I-need-a-new-PC-but-love-my-old-one-club.

[Inocudom]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

I doubt any one person would do that. I don't even have that kind of cash.

[Tedypig]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

I doubt any one person would do that. I don't even have that kind of cash.

I know... It was a joke...

HOWEVER!!! If there's any rich people here
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[Tedypig]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

Welcome to the I-need-a-new-PC-but-love-my-old-one-club.

It's more like the "I-Need-A-New-PC-But-I'm-Broke-As-A-Joke-Club" LMFAO!

[sfan5]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

You can build a decent machine (for playing MT) with only $125 - $150.

[Tedypig]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

You can build a decent machine (for playing MT) with only $125 - $150.

I know, but I wanted to make a decent server also. I found a "barebones" 3.9Ghz 6 core, 8Gb ddr3, etc., etc. for $436.14 (includes tax, assembly, and standard shipping). Plus it has an awesome case. :-) I know I don't want Windows anymore, so I don't need to pay the extra $100.00+ for that to be installed. I have a few decent hard drives laying around (80+Gb*3), so I don't need those. Once I get a job (or buy a decent winning scratch-off...) I'm getting this beast. Lol.

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AMD FX-6350 Piledriver (Vishera) 3.9GHz (Six Core) 32nm, AM3+ 8MB Cache
Spire Kestrel-King II AMD 64 fan
ASUS M5A78L-M LX PLUS AM3+, Onboard Video,Sound, GB LAN
8GB (2x4GB) PC17000 DDR3 2133 Dual Channel (high performance memory)
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
Apevia X-Dreamer-4 Black and Green, front USB 2.0 & 3.0, Temp. display, Hot swap HDD
Logisys 400W ATX Power Supply
Standard assembly and test 3-5 business days 

Not bad for the price. I priced a similar machine at Office Depot and it was almost $700.00! With an ugly case, no usb 3.0, yada yada..

[sfan5]

Anyone want to mail me $404.99? Lol. I need a new machine....

You can build a decent machine (for playing MT) with only $125 - $150.

I know, but I wanted to make a decent server also. I found a "barebones" 3.9Ghz 6 core, 8Gb ddr3, etc., etc. for $436.14 (includes tax, assembly, and standard shipping). Plus it has an awesome case. :-) I know I don't want Windows anymore, so I don't need to pay the extra $100.00+ for that to be installed. I have a few decent hard drives laying around (80+Gb*3), so I don't need those. [...]

lol. What you looked at is a high-end PC, this is way more than enough for MT (and even MC).
A decent Minetest server would cost at most $200.

[Tedypig]

lol. What you looked at is a high-end PC, this is way more than enough for MT (and even MC).
A decent Minetest server would cost at most $200.

This is the most minimal machine I can find, and dual core sucks (but still better than my single core P4). This setup costs $241.23 with tax and shipping, etc. I only added the stuff I don't have that's compatible (I.E. Ram), which I put the minimum they had.

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AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz (Dual Core) 45nm, AM3 2MB Cache
Spire Kestrel-King II AMD 64 fan
MSI 760GM-P23 (FX) AM3+, Onboard Video, GB LAN
4GB (2x2GB) PC8500 DDR3 1066 Dual Channel
Realtek HD digital audio (onboard)
Ethernet network adapter (onboard)
PowMax Black Mid Tower ATX Case w/ Front USB
Logisys 400W ATX Power Supply
Standard assembly and test 3-5 business days 

All I need to be able to play is a motherboard for my ES5200. The CPU, Ram, HDD, DVD Drive, etc. is all good, but the motherboard fried. It looks like liquid got in it somehow. The ABSOLUTE minimum is a new graphics card for this machine...

[Sokomine]

I'm playing Minetest on a Celeron G1610. The newer version of that Celeron is said to be even faster regarding graphics. There are cheap boards available with everything onboard. Of course it's not as fast and does not allow as far a view as a machine with an extra graphics card would allow - but it's usually more than sufficient.

[Tedypig]

I'm playing Minetest on a Celeron G1610. The newer version of that Celeron is said to be even faster regarding graphics. There are cheap boards available with everything onboard. Of course it's not as fast and does not allow as far a view as a machine with an extra graphics card would allow - but it's usually more than sufficient.

I know, but I don't want ANY lag. If I planed to run a server I would need at least a quad core to not have lag. I have a list of mods I want to run also, some of which NEED performance (I.E. Mesecons and Technic). I know I don't need some 8 core, 32Gb GDDR3, 4TB HDD monster, though it would be nice. I just want to play, and possibly run a server, both with no (or minimal) lag.

[sfan5]

I'm playing Minetest on a Celeron G1610. The newer version of that Celeron is said to be even faster regarding graphics. There are cheap boards available with everything onboard. Of course it's not as fast and does not allow as far a view as a machine with an extra graphics card would allow - but it's usually more than sufficient.

I know, but I don't want ANY lag. If I planed to run a server I would need at least a quad core to not have lag.

Do you have any proof?

I have a list of mods I want to run also, some of which NEED performance (I.E. Mesecons and Technic).

Both Mesecons and Technic do not require a very good CPU, mods can't even make use of more CPU cores.

I know I don't need some 8 core, 32Gb GDDR3, 4TB HDD monster, though it would be nice. I just want to play

A custom-built PC for $200 is more than sufficent for that, but if you want to throw money out of the window I can't stop you...

[Evergreen]

@Tedypig Like sfan said, don't waste your money. Just use something like pcpartpicker to help choose parts for a ~$200 pc. minetestserver does not need a beefy computer to work. iirc, someone actually made a server on a raspberry pi.

[Tedypig]

I also want to be able too play guys... To run the server AND play on the same machine, I NEED performance. I have a dual core @3.2 Ghz 3.2Ghz with 2Gb of GDDR2, and I had a server on it and played at the same time, I got ~10 FPS with JUST ME on it. My GF got on and it dropped to ~8, and a random person got on and it crashed. This is why I say I need at-least a quad core.

EDIT: Typo.

[sfan5]

I also want to be able too play guys... To run the server AND play on the same machine, I NEED performance. I have a dual core @3.2 Ghz 3.2Ghz with 2Gb of GDDR2, and I had a server on it and played at the same time, I got ~10 FPS with JUST ME on it. My GF got on and it dropped to ~8, and a random person got on and it crashed. This is why I say I need at-least a quad core.

You are aware that the FPS you get depends on your graphics card more than on your CPU?
Anyway, you can get a computer with a quad-core CPU for $200 too.