Hi folks!
I have been playing on and off for a year and I really enjoy the game. Only problem is I always have to log into my password manager first to play and that insanely annoying on my linux phone (I know right? I really enjoyed writing that).
Is there currently any way (or mod) to have the password fill in automatically for multiplayer in the client? (I know there is some json magic for the server side but thats not what I'm searching for. I want the client to remember the password for the (or all) server(s).
If thats not the case, does anyone know if the password is something we can pull from the API to have it safely put away in a mod's database and pulled out on the next start?
Have a good one! :)
How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
It does not exist. Luanti doesn't store passwords, and mods can't help because they are run by the server, and they are only run in-game anyway.
Maybe for this type of use, you don't need a password manager. It's only a game, so the only "threat" you'll face is some troll who tries to guess your password. You don't need super-high-sec passwords that are designed to resist large scale password guessing attacks. Something not too short and not too obvious should be good enough. For instance, I use "happybirthdaytoyou" on all Luanti servers.
Maybe for this type of use, you don't need a password manager. It's only a game, so the only "threat" you'll face is some troll who tries to guess your password. You don't need super-high-sec passwords that are designed to resist large scale password guessing attacks. Something not too short and not too obvious should be good enough. For instance, I use "happybirthdaytoyou" on all Luanti servers.
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Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
Most of applications that connect to some servers with passwords - these applications usually do have some simple builtin password manager. At least, they remember last password. It's a QoL thing. Why Luanti still doesn't have such a small and important feature - is a huge mystery to me.
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Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
And I never trusted any of them, because if it's stored in such a way that no password is needed to unlock the encryption on it, which it never seems to be, then it's trivial in many cases for a virus to just steal all the credentials that the application stored for you. All the obfuscation in the world doesn't matter, stealing passwords is big money, they're going to crack something that has not been encrypted in a way that requires the user to provide a secret like a password in no time at all.Ghaydn wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 23:51Most of applications that connect to some servers with passwords - these applications usually do have some simple builtin password manager. At least, they remember last password. It's a QoL thing. Why Luanti still doesn't have such a small and important feature - is a huge mystery to me.
What I would support is first-class support for password manager programs like KeepassXC, where the password manager has actually encrypted the passwords and, through a plugin, is able to bypass the clipboard and insert the password directly to the relevant spot inside of the browser (on many platforms, there is little to no restriction on what applications can read the clipboard, like when TikTok did it).
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Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
For those no-trusters it's common to add a checkbox "save password".
I personally keep all my passwords in KeepassXC. But also I use browser's builtin password manager, for example, to log in to this forum. Because it takes too long to run KeePass, find a corresponding entry, copy-paste login and password... I never save passwords in browser for such things like e-money, of course. But a game is a thing where I'd prefer comfort better than security.password manager programs like KeepassXC
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Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
Firstly, I have to say that Luanti Server passwords aren‘t the most secret ones because what could happen if someone else get them / one of them? In the worst case, he will change the password so you cannot use that account any more. And if you spent much time on the server or have much power, you should use a unique password which isn‘t already used for other servers
But as I said, the Luanti passwords aren’t the most important ones you have. That’s why I propose a Luanti password manager encrypted with a master-password. I would design it in a way that you can use it if you want.
Why don‘t use KeePassXC? I think when Luanti somehow uses the browser integration it would work with KeePassXC.Blockhead wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 01:17What I would support is first-class support for password manager programs like KeepassXC, where the password manager has actually encrypted the passwords and, through a plugin, is able to bypass the clipboard and insert the password directly to the relevant spot inside of the browser (on many platforms, there is little to no restriction on what applications can read the clipboard, like when TikTok did it).
But as I said, the Luanti passwords aren’t the most important ones you have. That’s why I propose a Luanti password manager encrypted with a master-password. I would design it in a way that you can use it if you want.
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Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
Yes, the saving is always optional and then I always turn it off/never. You'd have to be mad to suggest it be mandatory, thankfully nobody is.
It's true that it takes time to open it the first time, but I'm at my computer for very extended periods so once it's open I can just leave it all day and it's fine.
If it's possible to make Luanti use KeePassXC's browser plugin, then that would be great and save time. An in-game one makes sense, it's just a question of the time taken to develop and review it. The relevant issue thread is #1566, which was never closed, so a good implementation should be accepted.real_mineplayer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 06:53Why don‘t use KeePassXC? I think when Luanti somehow uses the browser integration it would work with KeePassXC.
But as I said, the Luanti passwords aren’t the most important ones you have. That’s why I propose a Luanti password manager encrypted with a master-password. I would design it in a way that you can use it if you want.
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Re: How to make the password remember for multiplayer?
When I used to play on mobile i kept my long ahh pword in my copypaste buffer thingGhaydn wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 02:29For those no-trusters it's common to add a checkbox "save password".I personally keep all my passwords in KeepassXC. But also I use browser's builtin password manager, for example, to log in to this forum. Because it takes too long to run KeePass, find a corresponding entry, copy-paste login and password... I never save passwords in browser for such things like e-money, of course. But a game is a thing where I'd prefer comfort better than security.password manager programs like KeepassXC
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