[solved] Where does the `creative` privilege come from and why can’t I set it? – Reason: API documentation is wrong

[Linuxdirk]

Heyo,

basically the title. I am currently toying a round with game development and I wonder how I can get the creative privilege working. I know that Luanti does not provide a creative menu where I can pick nodes from – I’ll create one, that’s not the issue.

But it seems like, there is no creative privilege at all. The API documentation says that it is a built-in privilege. But that’s not the case in Luanti 5.11.0?

I set this in my game.conf:

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disabled_settings = enable_damage, !creative_mode

According to the documentation this hides the checkboxes (what it does) and sets enable_damage to false (what it does, as expected) and enable creative_mode, which it seemingly does not.

I also don’t have creative-style gameplay, when I place a node it is removed from my inventory.

Even if I remove this game configuration and manually tick the checkbox I still don’t have a creative privilege or creative-like gameplay.

When I run /grantme all, I get those permissions:

ban, basic_privs, bring, debug, fast, fly, give, interact, kick, noclip, password, privs, protection_bypass, rollback, server, settime, shout, teleport

As you can see: no creative.

So, I wonder, how can I get the usual creative gameplay (i.e. nodes not removed from the inventory when placing them) … and why is there no creative privilege even if it should be a built-in one?

Thanks in advance for your help :)

[Desour]

It comes from mtg's creative mod (see minetest.register_privilege call). Looks like our doc is wrong.

[TenPlus1]

You have both creative mode which is global for all users, or 'creative' privelage which is granted to a few to allow them special build privelages. Mods can use the following command to tell if it is enabled or not:

if core.is_creative_enabled(name) then
-- do something creative
end

[Linuxdirk]

Looks like our doc is wrong.

It’s not “my doc”. It is the official Luanti API reference. 😃

or 'creative' privelage

That is part of my point: I don’t have that.

There is no creative privilege even if the API documentation says it’s a built-in privilege.

[TenPlus1]

@Linuxdirk - Are you running the default minetest_game ? it's definitely on creative mod in that if you do '/grantme all'

[Linuxdirk]

@Linuxdirk - Are you running the default minetest_game ?

No I don’t. It’s a basically blank game at the moment.

[LMD]

As Desour said, the documentation is wrong. The creative privilege is indeed not registered in the engine (see builtin/game/privileges.lua for a correct list of engine privileges) but rather in MTG (see here).

The only engine feature is core.is_creative_enabled, the default implementation of which returns the (cached) value of creative_mode.

[Linuxdirk]

Haha LOL … It just took me 2 hours of questioning my sanity while reading erroneous API documentation? So in case of “it is not working but it is documented” I can assume that the documentation is wrong? 😆

So Luanti actually does not know anything about creative mode except an otherwise technically meaningless flag being set that can be read by mods?

[Blockhead]

Haha LOL … It just took me 2 hours of questioning my sanity while reading erroneous API documentation? So in case of “it is not working but it is documented” I can assume that the documentation is wrong? 😆

Desour did say so:

It comes from mtg's creative mod (see minetest.register_privilege call). Looks like our doc is wrong.

Bold text by me - not sure whether you misread or thought that it was a typo for "your".

So Luanti actually does not know anything about creative mode except an otherwise technically meaningless flag being set that can be read by mods?

Yes indeed, you get to draw the rest of the owl.

[Linuxdirk]

Bold text by me - not sure whether you misread or thought that it was a typo for "your".

I guess I was tired 🙃

So Luanti actually does not know anything about creative mode except an otherwise technically meaningless flag being set that can be read by mods?

Yes indeed, you get to draw the rest of the owl.

Yeah, I can work with this. Was just was confused because the API reference is wrong.