Metrotest | LightMetro sim in Luanti

[nazalassa]

i cannot install your map due to android regression i posted an issue about a long time ago(seems like devs will never do anything about it LOL. long story short, when i change anything in the folders of minetest, the game will be unable to read anything including settings.

Dumb question (I do not know anything about Android) but does your file manager provide a way to change the permissions of a file? (I expect the answer to be "no" based on the lengthy discussion on Github but I may be wrong.)

i know you done a lot of work with the map and no one paid for it,but could you please make some comparison of the said sections?

Will do. Also the merger is now able to update the advtrains ndb and the travelnet data as well.
So far I copied metrotest v3.6 and merged my double-tracks in it (except for the sections I have mentioned earlier).

Also, if you wish i can add advtrains platforms made of colored concrete (the ones with a yellow line on top).

[Unacceptium_core]

not really permission, its a tag or meta idk and idc but let me show an img of it

the image shows how x-plore got tagged as owner by the android system. from what i experienced is the software you want to use has to have the owner tag applied first, then will have permission to modify the file. but to get the owner tag, app needs storage permission. luanti devs removed the permission to require android players go crazy using adb, root or shizuku. i may try installing shizuku so i can install a community map from the official minet-luanti forum

edit
note: there ARE some unreliable ways you can send files into the android/data folder, but i lost data a lot this way, i lost multiple versions of metrotest just because i wanted to test if it works(bc it makes the whole app folder be tagged with the above thing).

[nazalassa]

Section 2:

Spoiler

Basically track section 2 is this tunnel:

Look on metrotest v3.6

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Which on my version looks like this:

Look on naza-local

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Also, since I merged what followed (I did a backup before of course) here is the current end of the section, where it joins my double tracks:

Junction between UC and naza parts

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[nazalassa]

For section 1: first we have the part between the grey-orange "mines" station until the next "desert stone" station.

Spoiler

This is the "mines" station, with both our changes together: orange - yours, blue - mine.
The track I added continues (on the right of the image) towards the next station.

"mines" station

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This is the afore-mentionned track, continuing to the next station.

second track to "desert stone" station

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Here is a rough track diagram showing both our modifications: ('+' = modifications since metrotest v3.5)

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 |  |  (^- slope going up -^)
 |  |
 |  |  UC's new platform
  \ |`++++++++++++++++++++++     old track
   `-`----------------------`-----------------------------.
    +     |         |                    \    |         |  \
     +    | STATION |                     \   | STATION |   \       (section 2)
      +   |         |                      \  |         |    `--------------
       +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++`-------------------------------
         Naza's new platform -> and second track

[nazalassa]

Section 1 also has the slope from the "forest" station to the "mines" station.

Spoiler

The only difference between our version is my slope is less steep than yours (I rebuilt it with long slopes) so it ends and starts earlier. Here is the bottom of the slope, with my version and your version:

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Here is the befinning of the slope, again with both versions:

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Here is how the slope's entrance looks on my version. Since the old entrance was left unused, I built some tracks to make it look a bit better. Notice how, due to being much less steep, tracks in my version must go down much earlier.

Sorry for the bad quality; forum file size limit :/

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-- edit --
If I may also suggest - a way to build seats on slabs:

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Stair on a full block:     "Stair" on a slab:
      _
     | |_                        _
  ___|___|___                   |_|_
 |   |   |   |               ___|   |___
 |___|___|___|              |___|___|___|

[Unacceptium_core]

on section 2 i like mine a bit better,but i would also accept yours, i leave the choice to you... merging looks nice;
on section 1 i would like to keep mine, between them i would/may add a new tunnel with both tracks which connects to the rotated railsof desert stone station;
with the slopes to the onground section, i have to say i really dont like the long slope. i wouldnt like to change this part.
EDIT
after looking at it i line the longer slope more lol

you did other sections not shown here, do they work as expected? or there will be need of fixing like rails or other?

i did use that slab method a few times. you can find some if you want.

i have tried shizuku, and, oh boy it rocks... but i need wifi for it and i use mobile data for everything, so this will be a bit fked and seems to be unsafe to choose public wifi for wireless debugging
also i dont understand anything from what shizuku is about but it seems to be a giant overkill for this. but luanti devs leave no other way so...

another edit bc i dont want a new post
"TORMAH" shopping mall at Forrócsapszegesd, will be added either in 3.7 or the merged version (will start numbering with 4.0if merge successful)

[nazalassa]

on section 2 i like mine a bit better,but i would also accept yours, i leave the choice to you... merging looks nice;
on section 1 i would like to keep mine, between them i would/may add a new tunnel with both tracks which connects to the rotated railsof desert stone station;
with the slopes to the onground section, i have to say i really dont like the long slope. i wouldnt like to change this part.
EDIT
after looking at it i line the longer slope more lol

So... If I understood correctly, for section 1 we keep the long slope but we don't kep the second track and platform I added, and for section 2 I can choose which one to keep? (Just making sure to avoid doing the wrong thing.)

you did other sections not shown here, do they work as expected? or there will be need of fixing like rails or other?

The other sections had no issues; since they have not been modified since metrotest v3.5 (except for some minor things such as changing a node here and there) they will no need fixing. Frankly, I did absolutely not expect the merge to cause as few problems.

i have tried shizuku, and, oh boy it rocks... but i need wifi for it and i use mobile data for everything, so this will be a bit fked and seems to be unsafe to choose public wifi for wireless debugging
also i dont understand anything from what shizuku is about but it seems to be a giant overkill for this. but luanti devs leave no other way so...

I may be wrong, but from what I understood, it works by spawning a "process" (a running program) with higher permissions than normal processes (it does that thanks to the "wireless debugging"), so user programs can ask the Shizuku process to do things and these things will be done with the higher permissions of the Shizuku process.

At least they have a git repository (https://github.com/RikkaApps/Shizuku/tree/master).

another edit bc i dont want a new post
"TORMAH" shopping mall at Forrócsapszegesd, will be added either in 3.7 or the merged version (will start numbering with 4.0if merge successful)

Dumb question but how do you plan to add it to the merged version?

[Unacceptium_core]

So... If I understood correctly, for section 1 we keep the long slope but we don't kep the second track and platform I added, and for section 2 I can choose which one to keep? (Just making sure to avoid doing the wrong thing.)

pure perfection. sorry for the weird language i use sometimes, i am constantly tired.

The other sections had no issues; since they have not been modified since metrotest v3.5 (except for some minor things such as changing a node here and there) they will no need fixing. Frankly, I did absolutely not expect the merge to cause as few problems.

very nice to hear that!

Dumb question but how do you plan to add it to the merged version?
Life is like a multitasking

i saved it as an .mts scheme. i wanted to finish it because i had energy for it. when i get the merged version, i will add the scheme file before copying to the game's folder.
also its currently a potemkin building but i want to make interiors for the buildings, the mall has the entrance done with the escalators already. this will be a great practice for line 2, as it will be mostly onground (man i think i want too much from myself xd) and will have to make some kind of interior for the ground level at least.

i got an idea, im not sure if it could work...
what if you release 3.7? when you are done with merging and cleaning up, you could upload the map. its just an idea, not forcing you or anything like that

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Also, if you wish i can add advtrains platforms made of colored concrete (the ones with a yellow line on top).

wait, is this a thing? or you mean you could make those? i am searching for such in a long time, i mentioned that i am trying to find such platforms back when i had reddit and posted screenshots there.

[nazalassa]

Also, if you wish i can add advtrains platforms made of colored concrete (the ones with a yellow line on top).

wait, is this a thing? or you mean you could make those? i am searching for such in a long time, i mentioned that i am trying to find such platforms back when i had reddit and posted screenshots there.

Advtrains provides a function to create platforms out of nodes (advtrains.register_platform()) so I can make a small mod that registers platforms for the colored concrete blocks. I will add it to metrotest 3.7 (or is it 4.0?). Which colors do you want?

Will be working on the merging stuff today. Hopefully should not take too long.

[Unacceptium_core]

I will add it to metrotest 3.7 (or is it 4.0?).

if the merging is successful and i can continue it without problems its 4.0. if not its 3.7.

Which colors do you want?

yes

[nazalassa]

Which colors do you want?

yes

Will do :)

For section 2, do you like this version? It is basically yours but wider.

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[Unacceptium_core]

Which colors do you want?

yes

Will do :)

you understood lol

For section 2, do you like this version? It is basically yours but wider.

yes i do like it.

[nazalassa]

Merge done, I am checking small details but it shouldn't be long.

EDIT: all done and checked, should work properly. Download here.

Some stations have extra tracks after them which allow trains to reverse, so in these stations I added some levers on the walls to remotely switch the turnout from the platform. Such levers also have a sign next to them that explain this.

[Unacceptium_core]

Merge done (...) all done and checked, should work properly. Download (...)

Very nice, thank you for all of your effort!

Some stations have extra tracks after them which allow trains to reverse, so in these stations I added some levers on the walls to remotely switch the turnout from the platform. Such levers also have a sign next to them that explain this.

i'm not sure if i like that, i will check this after i can get my browser to download the file properly.

[Unacceptium_core]

Nazalassa the update is sick🔥
this station looks very nice, i'm sure keeping it

[nazalassa]

Some stations have extra tracks after them which allow trains to reverse, so in these stations I added some levers on the walls to remotely switch the turnout from the platform. Such levers also have a sign next to them that explain this.

i'm not sure if i like that, i will check this after i can get my browser to download the file properly.

Feel free to remove them. (But then, make sure to also remove the lua controller behind them.)