Two luantis?!?

[AndPherb]

I was downloading the flatpack version of luanti, did a thing with cmake to make it work (I should really stop using chatGPT for help with file downloads), and all of a sudden I can use luanti, but I have one in my personal directory, and another that I can open by running the first one with 'Luanti', but I can't find that one's files anywhere, and I can't open the user directory from in the game! Which one should I use, and how do I make them show up on my desk?
I use debian bookworm on rpi5

[Blockhead]

I was downloading the flatpack version of luanti, did a thing with cmake to make it work (I should really stop using chatGPT for help with file downloads),

Yes, you should instead use a search engine for a lot of tasks. Here is the search I put into DuckDuckGo to help me write this answer:

site:forum.luanti.org flatpak where files

Now, I am going to add a lot of details about how things are done in general below, but, feel free to ask for more help if something goes amiss or you didn't quite understand it.

and all of a sudden I can use luanti, but I have one in my personal directory, and another that I can open by running the first one with 'Luanti',

ChatGPT told you some commands to run, which you blindly followed. Whenever something tells you commands to run, learn what on earth it's actually going to do so (1) you don't get pwned (2) you learn and memorise something, becoming less dependent on outside help. On Linux, you do this with the manual pages - any command you're able to run should have a manual page, available with the program man, like man cmake.

It didn't set up a Flatpak, or you would still only have one version. Instead it sounds like it got you to download the source code and build it, probably from these instructions and maybe also reading doc/compiling/linux.md off of GitHub or in some data dump that was fed into it.

To install via Flatpak, you would have to run:

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$ sudo flatpak install org.luanti.luanti

If you haven't already set up a source like FlatHub for your Flatpaks, you should first do that.

but I can't find that one's files anywhere, and I can't open the user directory from in the game! Which one should I use,

The file path today comes courtesy of Tuxilio:

Hi,

i've installed Minetest via Flatpak too. The folder is:

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/var/lib/flatpak/app/net.minetest.Minetest/

for the engine and

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/home/USER/.var/app/net.minetest.Minetest/.minetest/

for the mods.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year!

I hope this helps
Tuxilio

Now, that answer is out of date after the renaming. That would instead org.luanti.luanti instead of net.minetest.Minetest. How do I know that? Well, by a search:

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$ flatpak search luanti
Name          Description                                  Application ID           Version        Branch        Remotes
Luanti        Block-based multiplayer game platform        org.luanti.luanti        5.14.0         stable        flathub

$ sudo flatpak install org.luanti.luanti
Looking for matches…

org.luanti.luanti permissions:
    ipc    network   pulseaudio   x11   devices



        ID                                Branch          Op          Remote           Download
 1.     org.luanti.luanti.Locale          stable          i           flathub           < 1.9 MB (partial)
 2.     org.luanti.luanti                 stable          i           flathub          < 15.4 MB

Now, make sure you only have one. If you want to easily update Luanti along with your other packages, probably inside GNOME Software or what-have-you, the Flatpak will suit you. If you don't mind taking the time to build new versions, compiling from source should run slightly faster. So now either sudo apt remove luanti or sudo flatpak uninstall org.luanti.luanti should do the job. If the apt command fails, you probably have a Luanti compiled to "run in place", and so you can delete the .desktop file and the place it points and it will all be gone - you can figure out where it points in some kind of right-click properties menu, or just opening it with a text editor, .desktop is a text format.

and how do I make them show up on my desk?
I use debian bookworm on rpi5

How exactly to put the file in your desktop will vary depending on your Desktop Environment. But pretty much always, you should have a file manager and a Desktop directory visible inside your home directory, and files that get copied there should show up. (I am not great at this part, because I don't actually use a normal desktop, but sway window manager and either bemenu or a launcher for .desktop files, j4-dmenu-desktop - rest assured that sentence looks like gobbledegook unless you're a user of window managers rather than the normal desktop environments)

Hope that helped, if not, ask away :)

[AndPherb]

Thank you! Turns out one was installed through something else, and the other was the flatpak version. Now I need to figure out how to remove the non-flatpak one.

[Blockhead]

Thank you! Turns out one was installed through something else, and the other was the flatpak version. Now I need to figure out how to remove the non-flatpak one.

Again, .desktop files are a text format. Your own ones you can find in the Desktop directory with a file browser, I assume one comes with Raspberry Pi OS, like PCManFM where it would be "Home Folder > Desktop". The system's ones live in /usr/share/applications, where it might also be found, or /var/lib/flatpak/exports/share/applications/. The list used seems to be XDG_DATA_DIRS from the XDG specs. Looking through these directories should find the Luanti desktop files, and a text editor will tell you the method it uses in the Exec line.

[Astrobe]

Yes, you should instead use a search engine for a lot of tasks. Here is the search I put into DuckDuckGo to help me write this answer:

site:forum.luanti.org flatpak where files

An even better piece of advice is to look for the official site (if you don't know that either, Wikipedia can be helpful and is reasonably trustworthy), then download from it. In this case, this would have led you to https://www.luanti.org/en/downloads/

[pias25ASA]

yeaaa, I have 2[two] Luanti/Minetest too. one[1]: Minetest 5.10.0, two[2]: Luanti 5.14.0.

I was install it from App Center Linux Ubuntu.


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great, if all always update.

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[Blockhead]

Ubuntu is a stable release distribution, so its version of Luanti from apt will be frozen at the time of release. The version it gets frozen at depends on the distribution maintainers. [url=https://packages.ubuntu.com/questing/luanti]Ubuntu Package search[/rule] shows me 25.10 still has 5.10 include. They could have had 5.13, but probably just copied the package from Debian.

Now that I have explained this, I hope you see why a lot of people prefer Flatpak (or Snap or AppImage) or compiled from source, or rolling release Linux distributions.